please read , I think the idea to collect signatures of interested customers is valid . please

contact any interested customers for the product and lets start an online petition. and contact

hardware developers directly (Microsoft, MadCatz, Logitech, Nyko, Pelican, etc.) and offer

the petition to get our controller .
Victor . please email me if you have any ideas or can do this v.reventlow(at)Att.net

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Please replace right D’pad on game controller with a trackball for console games especially

first-person shooters
for years now tried to find , or get made , or have the console makers create a

game controller for the Xbox , to include a mini tracball on the right of the pad (replacing the

right thumbstic) on the Xbox gamepad. . something developed for a while , Somone even

started to manufacture the item , I and many others pre-ordered and pre-paid for them. but it

all ended without result ( they returned our money ) then it ” fizzled ‘ out . here is some of the

history for anyone (like Microsoft !!!!) interested, I would really like to see this controller

finally made . Please read on and support . there is a good conseptualised image and more

history and detail at: see also url:

The trackball is a better

control mechanism for console first-person shooters I’ve occasionally heard people say

“thumbsticks are just different – Once you get used to them, they work as well as a mouse”.

But those who have used both extensively will tell you that there are major differences. Here is

what we know: With joysticks, you do not directly control the position of your cross hairs.

You control the rate and direction at which it moves across the screen. For example, if you

move the joystick slightly to the left and hold it, the cross hairs will move slowly until you bring

the joystick back to center. That means that every movement of your cross hairs actually

involves two small movements in the joystick. This is a subtle difference, but it is multiplied

thousands of times when a game is played. Second, and perhaps more importantly, cross hair

movement speed is capped with joysticks. “Twitch” movement is all but impossible when using

a joystick to control your view. In fact, the higher the maximum speed allowed with joystick

control, the more imprecise the joystick becomes. Theoretically, the same is true with mouse

or trackball control (ever maxed-out the sensitivity of your PC mouse?), but to a much lesser

degree. With a mouse or trackball, you control the rate and position directly. If you roll the

mouse to the left and hold it, the cross hairs will do the same. This is a fundamental advantage

in usability, as there are less movement decisions to make and less potential mistakes overall.

Although there is a theoretical limit to cross hair speed/sensitivity with mouse and trackball

input, accomplished users can achieve near-instantaneous “twitch” movement with them.

Obviously, this is not desirable in every game, but the speed can easily be limited by game

developers, when appropriate. Good things happen when game developers are given more

freedom. A trackball controller will allow for other game genres on consoles Real-time

strategy games like Warcraft would benefit greatly from a trackball gamepad. These types of

games were originally designed for PC’s with mouse input, and that is still the best platform

for them. Click-and-drag, multiple-selects, and clicking way points are fundamental to RTS

games, and mouse-style input is the simplest way to do it. Adding a trackball to controllers

and gamepads opens up new possibilities in game design. Imagine being able to play classic

trackball-based arcade games like Centipede and Golden Tee the way they were meant to be

played. Developers would be able to create new golf, bowling, and other types of games

well-suited for trackball input. Trackball controllers would be better for the console maker

By now, just about everybody you know has used the internet. If you’ve ever used an internet

browser, you’ve used a point-and-click interface. Game and console developers could decrease

the learning curve for their software by taking advantage of pointer-driven interfaces. This is

primarily a benefit to the console maker, because a shorter learning curve ultimately opens the

doors to a wider market, and creates a competitive advantage. A neat additional benefit of

implementing pointer-driven interfaces in console games is that user interfaces could be

standardized between PC and console software. This would naturally decrease development

time for games developed for both platforms.

04-23-2008, 7:39 PM
nCogNeato <http://gamercard.xbox.com/nCogNeato.card controller with a trackball for

console games especilally first-person shooters
The trackball is an interesting concept. I couldn’t say for sure I would

buy it, but I would definately consider it if they used it on their kiosk stations. However, since

the production has been approved, initiated, and shut down a number of time, I have to say

there simply isn’t enough public interest for the device. This users in this forum is a drop in the

bucket to the numbers required to catch the eye of hardware developers. I would recommend

starting an online petition. Once your numbers reach into the 10,000s area, contact hardware

developers directly (Microsoft, MadCatz, Logitech, Nyko, Pelican, etc.) and offer the petition.

They could probably estimate 1/4 of the signatures as possible sales. If overhead and sales

adds up, you might catch the right eye. In the meantime, if you really desperate you can pay

Ben Heckendorn to custom-build one for you. Hello Mr. Neato

FAMILY SUBSCRIPTIONS!

http://www.globalsources.com/gsol/I/Computer-joystick/a/9000000075082.htm

I want a trackball controller bad. So I bought a trackball “mouse” that is controlled with the thumb and used it with my playstation controller to see what it felt like controlwise. Obviously not the exact same as it was two seperate pieces. But I got an idea of what it could be and its awsome! Im a console gamer mainly because I prefer a controller. But Id prefer to use the computer for all my entertainment needs. The trackball really brings console and pc gaming together! I played battlefield online with it. I did a lot better than just using the analog ps2 like pc controller. Built into the controller as one unit would be very nice!